article on bowl game...

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/4001357.html

goodknightfl Wrote:article on bowl game...

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/4001357.html

So now we know how they are getting out of the Big East contract with the Houston Bowl. In reality the Houston Bowl is now defunct and they are starting this with a new organization.

Hope they make it so Navy can go to the Poinsettia Bowl against a MWC school and it leaves the Meineke Car Care Bowl back in Big East hands despite our IDIOT of a COMMISH Mike "BLINDSIDED" Transghese.

Well, that explains my question on cusa board of how are they getting out of the big east contracts.

given the choice i think Navy would prefer insight bowl. the good thing for be is ... charl/navy thing is only 1 year. chances are at least 50-50 if Nd gets bcs bid.. U wont need more than 5 bowls this year anyways.. 4 might even be enough. the deal the BE had with houston was for #3.. if u kept contract then charlotte wouldnt have signed anyways.. seems to me if u had to choose between the 2 charlotte makes much more sense.

Again it still opens up a bowl. There was an article that the Big East is/was involved with the Poinsettia Bowl. IF we have 5-6 Bowl eligible teams all of them will be in Bowl games this year.

Maize Wrote:Again it still opens up a bowl. There was an article that the Big East is/was involved with the Poinsettia Bowl. IF we have 5-6 Bowl eligible teams all of them will be in Bowl games this year.

We need to get out of all the crap bowls out west and the disaster that will be the Snow Bowl in Canada. I hate how reactive the conference is reagrding football.

Maize Wrote:Again it still opens up a bowl. There was an article that the Big East is/was involved with the Poinsettia Bowl. IF we have 5-6 Bowl eligible teams all of them will be in Bowl games this year.

I would expect that u are right there... Poinsettia... had agreements or hookups to a few conf if i remember correctly... my guess is U are very safe for 5 bids..

L-yes Wrote:

Maize Wrote:Again it still opens up a bowl. There was an article that the Big East is/was involved with the Poinsettia Bowl. IF we have 5-6 Bowl eligible teams all of them will be in Bowl games this year.

We need to get out of all the crap bowls out west and the disaster that will be the Snow Bowl in Canada. I hate how reactive the conference is reagrding football.

L-Yes I completely agree with you but remember in this league it is all about Basketball, Notre Dame and the Big East Tournament in MSG. The folks in the league office only give lip service to football.

Quote:We need to get out of all the crap bowls out west and the disaster that will be the Snow Bowl in Canada. I hate how reactive the conference is reagrding football.

-- TV markets rule the day in the BE. If attractivness to bowls was a key category in expansion Memphis and ECU would have been #s7/8 in the football conference instead of UC and USF

-- This is one of those situations were we need to make the best out of what we have. Hey, look at it this way. UL and WVU will never see those Western/snow bowls. In the old league the Gator just became a ND/VAtech/WVU bowl with little represtenation from the rest of the league. I'm sure the Gator/Sun will be the same thing with UL filling in for VT. There have been times WVU has technically finished 4th in the league and still gone to the Gator because #2+3 couldn't sell tickets. Worse case scenario the Cards and Mountys will go to Charlotte to place the ACC. Neither school will go lower then that on the bowl pecking order for the duration of the contract

Jackson

the Big east will fill allof its bowl spots in any event.My guess 5 is just right and youwillnot need anymore most years.

TopCoog Wrote:the Big east will fill allof its bowl spots in any event.My guess 5 is just right and youwillnot need anymore most years.

Call me crazy, but IMO 4 bowl games is enough for a 8 team conference. These new bottom feeder bowls that can barely scrape up money for the minimum bowl payouts force schools to lose money.

Sorry I am not just a big fan of spending almost $2K to travel to Toronto around XMAS time to watch 'bowl game' in a city that looks at football much like most Americans look at hockey....a curious afterthought.

CyberBull Wrote:

TopCoog Wrote:the Big east will fill allof its bowl spots in any event.My guess 5 is just right and youwillnot need anymore most years.

Call me crazy, but IMO 4 bowl games is enough for a 8 team conference. These new bottom feeder bowls that can barely scrape up money for the minimum bowl payouts force schools to lose money.

Sorry I am not just a big fan of spending almost $2K to travel to Toronto around XMAS time to watch 'bowl game' in a city that looks at football much like most Americans look at hockey....a curious afterthought.

For the schools it isnt about $$$$ in these bowls... it about face time on TV... and the extra practices.....

Jackson1011 Wrote:

Quote:We need to get out of all the crap bowls out west and the disaster that will be the Snow Bowl in Canada. I hate how reactive the conference is reagrding football.

-- TV markets rule the day in the BE. If attractivness to bowls was a key category in expansion Memphis and ECU would have been #s7/8 in the football conference instead of UC and USF

-- This is one of those situations were we need to make the best out of what we have. Hey, look at it this way. UL and WVU will never see those Western/snow bowls. In the old league the Gator just became a ND/VAtech/WVU bowl with little represtenation from the rest of the league. I'm sure the Gator/Sun will be the same thing with UL filling in for VT. There have been times WVU has technically finished 4th in the league and still gone to the Gator because #2+3 couldn't sell tickets. Worse case scenario the Cards and Mountys will go to Charlotte to place the ACC. Neither school will go lower then that on the bowl pecking order for the duration of the contract

Jackson

LOL--gimme a break

You really think WVU and UL will never go to a second tier bowl? I'm sorry but neither school is a dynasty yet.

TexanMark Wrote:

Jackson1011 Wrote:

Quote:We need to get out of all the crap bowls out west and the disaster that will be the Snow Bowl in Canada. I hate how reactive the conference is reagrding football.

-- TV markets rule the day in the BE. If attractivness to bowls was a key category in expansion Memphis and ECU would have been #s7/8 in the football conference instead of UC and USF

-- This is one of those situations were we need to make the best out of what we have. Hey, look at it this way. UL and WVU will never see those Western/snow bowls. In the old league the Gator just became a ND/VAtech/WVU bowl with little represtenation from the rest of the league. I'm sure the Gator/Sun will be the same thing with UL filling in for VT. There have been times WVU has technically finished 4th in the league and still gone to the Gator because #2+3 couldn't sell tickets. Worse case scenario the Cards and Mountys will go to Charlotte to place the ACC. Neither school will go lower then that on the bowl pecking order for the duration of the contract

Jackson

LOL--gimme a break

You really think WVU and UL will never go to a second tier bowl? I'm sorry but neither school is a dynasty yet.

As long as SU SUcks we won't have to worry about competition from New York.

L-yes Wrote:

TexanMark Wrote:

Jackson1011 Wrote:

Quote:We need to get out of all the crap bowls out west and the disaster that will be the Snow Bowl in Canada. I hate how reactive the conference is reagrding football.

-- TV markets rule the day in the BE. If attractivness to bowls was a key category in expansion Memphis and ECU would have been #s7/8 in the football conference instead of UC and USF

-- This is one of those situations were we need to make the best out of what we have. Hey, look at it this way. UL and WVU will never see those Western/snow bowls. In the old league the Gator just became a ND/VAtech/WVU bowl with little represtenation from the rest of the league. I'm sure the Gator/Sun will be the same thing with UL filling in for VT. There have been times WVU has technically finished 4th in the league and still gone to the Gator because #2+3 couldn't sell tickets. Worse case scenario the Cards and Mountys will go to Charlotte to place the ACC. Neither school will go lower then that on the bowl pecking order for the duration of the contract

Jackson

LOL--gimme a break

You really think WVU and UL will never go to a second tier bowl? I'm sorry but neither school is a dynasty yet.

As long as SU SUcks we won't have to worry about competition from New York.

What I'm saying is it goes in cycles--if $$$moneygrub Petrino gets Wanderlust for the 23rd time or RRod gets caught in another peccadillo and gets fired your two year old dynasties will come tumbling down. My god you guys think 2005 = 2006=2007=2008, etc....

TexanMark Wrote:

L-yes Wrote:

TexanMark Wrote:

Jackson1011 Wrote:

Quote:We need to get out of all the crap bowls out west and the disaster that will be the Snow Bowl in Canada. I hate how reactive the conference is reagrding football.

-- TV markets rule the day in the BE. If attractivness to bowls was a key category in expansion Memphis and ECU would have been #s7/8 in the football conference instead of UC and USF

-- This is one of those situations were we need to make the best out of what we have. Hey, look at it this way. UL and WVU will never see those Western/snow bowls. In the old league the Gator just became a ND/VAtech/WVU bowl with little represtenation from the rest of the league. I'm sure the Gator/Sun will be the same thing with UL filling in for VT. There have been times WVU has technically finished 4th in the league and still gone to the Gator because #2+3 couldn't sell tickets. Worse case scenario the Cards and Mountys will go to Charlotte to place the ACC. Neither school will go lower then that on the bowl pecking order for the duration of the contract

Jackson

LOL--gimme a break

You really think WVU and UL will never go to a second tier bowl? I'm sorry but neither school is a dynasty yet.

As long as SU SUcks we won't have to worry about competition from New York.

What I'm saying is it goes in cycles--if $$$moneygrub Petrino gets Wanderlust for the 23rd time or RRod gets caught in another peccadillo and gets fired your two year old dynasties will come tumbling down. My god you guys think 2005 = 2006=2007=2008, etc....

No we don't. We think 1998=1999=2000=2001=2002=2003=2004=2005 and so on.

Quote:LOL--gimme a break

You really think WVU and UL will never go to a second tier bowl? I'm sorry but neither school is a dynasty yet.

-- Its not about dynasties, its about how many tickets get sold. Go back and look at who played in the Gator Bowl between say 1996 and the present. The BE reps not named Notre Dame, Va Tech or WVU are few and far between.

-- 1996 is a perfect example of what I am talking about. If memory serves both SU and WVU finished 8-3. Syracuse destroyed WVU that yr in Morgantown, and yet WVU still got the Gator Bowl because our fans travel

-- The Gator Bowl director was actually quoted as saying UL brought more fans to the game this past yr in the Hokies did. How many other BE teams could out travel VT to a bowl game? Again the issue is who can bring the fans to make the bowls happy. Right now is WVU,UL, Rutgers and maybe Uconn. Other then that the football traveling fan base in the league is almost non existent


Jackson

L-yes Wrote:

TexanMark Wrote:

Jackson1011 Wrote:

Quote:We need to get out of all the crap bowls out west and the disaster that will be the Snow Bowl in Canada. I hate how reactive the conference is reagrding football.

-- TV markets rule the day in the BE. If attractivness to bowls was a key category in expansion Memphis and ECU would have been #s7/8 in the football conference instead of UC and USF

-- This is one of those situations were we need to make the best out of what we have. Hey, look at it this way. UL and WVU will never see those Western/snow bowls. In the old league the Gator just became a ND/VAtech/WVU bowl with little represtenation from the rest of the league. I'm sure the Gator/Sun will be the same thing with UL filling in for VT. There have been times WVU has technically finished 4th in the league and still gone to the Gator because #2+3 couldn't sell tickets. Worse case scenario the Cards and Mountys will go to Charlotte to place the ACC. Neither school will go lower then that on the bowl pecking order for the duration of the contract

Jackson

LOL--gimme a break

You really think WVU and UL will never go to a second tier bowl? I'm sorry but neither school is a dynasty yet.

As long as SU SUcks we won't have to worry about competition from New York.

I dont know buffalo might catch em... ;-)

goodknightfl Wrote:

L-yes Wrote:

TexanMark Wrote:

Jackson1011 Wrote:

Quote:We need to get out of all the crap bowls out west and the disaster that will be the Snow Bowl in Canada. I hate how reactive the conference is reagrding football.

-- TV markets rule the day in the BE. If attractivness to bowls was a key category in expansion Memphis and ECU would have been #s7/8 in the football conference instead of UC and USF

-- This is one of those situations were we need to make the best out of what we have. Hey, look at it this way. UL and WVU will never see those Western/snow bowls. In the old league the Gator just became a ND/VAtech/WVU bowl with little represtenation from the rest of the league. I'm sure the Gator/Sun will be the same thing with UL filling in for VT. There have been times WVU has technically finished 4th in the league and still gone to the Gator because #2+3 couldn't sell tickets. Worse case scenario the Cards and Mountys will go to Charlotte to place the ACC. Neither school will go lower then that on the bowl pecking order for the duration of the contract

Jackson

LOL--gimme a break

You really think WVU and UL will never go to a second tier bowl? I'm sorry but neither school is a dynasty yet.

As long as SU SUcks we won't have to worry about competition from New York.

I dont know buffalo might catch em... ;-)

LOL. What was the result of the game the last time UCF played Buffalo? Didnt' Buffalo blow out the golden nights? No wonder a UCF fan would think that Buffalo will catch up to Syracuse. lmfao lmfao

Jackson1011 Wrote:

Quote:LOL--gimme a break

You really think WVU and UL will never go to a second tier bowl? I'm sorry but neither school is a dynasty yet.

-- 1996 is a perfect example of what I am talking about. If memory serves both SU and WVU finished 8-3. Syracuse destroyed WVU that yr in Morgantown, and yet WVU still got the Gator Bowl because our fans travel

-- The Gator Bowl director was actually quoted as saying UL brought more fans to the game this past yr in the Hokies did. How many other BE teams could out travel VT to a bowl game? Again the issue is who can bring the fans to make the bowls happy. Right now is WVU,UL, Rutgers and maybe Uconn. Other then that the football traveling fan base in the league is almost non existent


Jackson

1996 was an odd year though. For the regular season, VT went 10-1 and Miami, SU, and WVU all went 8-3. SU split against WVU & Miami, while Miami went 2-0 vs. SU & WVU. Where did each team end up:

WVU - Gator
Miami - Carquest (although it was a bowl game essentially at home)
SU - Liberty

As for VT's poor attendance at the Gator, that is being rectified in the ACC's bowl tie-ins. The ACC basically guaranteed its conference championship game loser a spot in the Gator, which meant that the losing team would travel to Jacksonville twice in a month. If I were a fan and travelled down for the ACC title game, what incentive is there for me to travel there again for a bowl game? The Chick-Fil-A Bowl in Atlanta now gets the 1st ACC pick after the BCS.