HiddenDragon Wrote:

USFMike Wrote:we're playing them 4 times numnuts, how are we scared? and we don't have to "deal" with anything other than winning games against other bcs teams not f'ing around with teams like ucf. if they want a 2 for 1 than i say game on, it's a game we should win, in the meantime if a mac team or fiu/fau team is willing to give us a 2 for 1 instead than i'll take that option any day.

Read and chill junior. I didn't say anything about the amount of times USF is playing UCF. I am saying the sole reason for USF not wanting to play UCF after 2008 is because USF officials are concerned about the rapid growth of UCF Athletics

I'd say they are more concerned with the rapid growth of USF athletics.

They don't have to worry about constructor set stadiums and convocation centers. The Miami game looks like it might become the in-state rivalry they concentrate on.

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HiddenDragon Wrote:

USFMike Wrote:we're playing them 4 times numnuts, how are we scared? and we don't have to "deal" with anything other than winning games against other bcs teams not f'ing around with teams like ucf. if they want a 2 for 1 than i say game on, it's a game we should win, in the meantime if a mac team or fiu/fau team is willing to give us a 2 for 1 instead than i'll take that option any day.

Read and chill junior. I didn't say anything about the amount of times USF is playing UCF. I am saying the sole reason for USF not wanting to play UCF after 2008 is because USF officials are concerned about the rapid growth of UCF Athletics

I'd say they are more concerned with the rapid growth of USF athletics.

They don't have to worry about constructor set stadiums and convocation centers. The Miami game looks like it might become the in-state rivalry they concentrate on.

Miami & USF...which have schedule 4 games over 9 seasons (from 2005 to 2013)...here's what Coker said just a month a so ago about USF:

"We'd like to sprinkle [USF] through our schedule, but I wouldn't want to play the game every year," Miami coach Larry Coker said.

Miami's AD agreed with that thought in other interviews.

Miami doesn't want to play USF every year.

Case closed.

KL

HiddenDragon Wrote:

USFMike Wrote:we're playing them 4 times numnuts, how are we scared? and we don't have to "deal" with anything other than winning games against other bcs teams not f'ing around with teams like ucf. if they want a 2 for 1 than i say game on, it's a game we should win, in the meantime if a mac team or fiu/fau team is willing to give us a 2 for 1 instead than i'll take that option any day.

Read and chill junior. I didn't say anything about the amount of times USF is playing UCF. I am saying the sole reason for USF not wanting to play UCF after 2008 is because USF officials are concerned about the rapid growth of UCF Athletics

you're telling me to chill, you're making baseless accusations about my alma mater and trying to call us cowards, and you expect usf fans to stand for that? if ucf is such a rising star how come they couldn't put up a single point against uf, how come they could only beat one team with a winning season last year, how come their genius AD jumped ship, how come their stadium costs less than louisville's stadium expansion, after all ucf was just about to explode right? keep drinking the kool-aid. fact is, this is the one year where they have a chance to beat us, given their senior qb, senior ol, and their overhyped rb versus the fact we're starting a redshirt fresh qb, our top 2 rb's are out, and we're dealing with youth/suspensions/injuries. if they can't beat us this year they sure as hell aren't beating us the next two years, ucf has just as much to lose as us if not more because at least we're playing in a meaningful conference. forgive us if usf aspires to be more than founding members of the "little two" showdown, i'll take a 1 for 1 w/ any bcs team or a 2 for 1 w/ any mid major (including ucf) over a forced annual rivalry game against ucf.

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L-yes Wrote:

HiddenDragon Wrote:

USFMike Wrote:we're playing them 4 times numnuts, how are we scared? and we don't have to "deal" with anything other than winning games against other bcs teams not f'ing around with teams like ucf. if they want a 2 for 1 than i say game on, it's a game we should win, in the meantime if a mac team or fiu/fau team is willing to give us a 2 for 1 instead than i'll take that option any day.

Read and chill junior. I didn't say anything about the amount of times USF is playing UCF. I am saying the sole reason for USF not wanting to play UCF after 2008 is because USF officials are concerned about the rapid growth of UCF Athletics

I'd say they are more concerned with the rapid growth of USF athletics.

They don't have to worry about constructor set stadiums and convocation centers. The Miami game looks like it might become the in-state rivalry they concentrate on.

Miami & USF...which have schedule 4 games over 9 seasons (from 2005 to 2013)...here's what Coker said just a month a so ago about USF:

"We'd like to sprinkle [USF] through our schedule, but I wouldn't want to play the game every year," Miami coach Larry Coker said.

Miami's AD agreed with that thought in other interviews.

Miami doesn't want to play USF every year.

Case closed.

KL

that's funny, you don't mention paul dee the AD's quotes in the same article, we play them 2009, 2011, 2012, w/ 2 dates in tampa. it won't take much to make it an annual series. most usf fans take a wait and see approach as far as an annual series, the fact we're in discussions, is a testament to the growth of the program and the importance of playing in a bcs conference. i know all ucf fans would probably crap in their pants if we did get an annual series.

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USFMike Wrote:we're playing them 4 times numnuts, how are we scared? and we don't have to "deal" with anything other than winning games against other bcs teams not f'ing around with teams like ucf. if they want a 2 for 1 than i say game on, it's a game we should win, in the meantime if a mac team or fiu/fau team is willing to give us a 2 for 1 instead than i'll take that option any day.

Read and chill junior. I didn't say anything about the amount of times USF is playing UCF. I am saying the sole reason for USF not wanting to play UCF after 2008 is because USF officials are concerned about the rapid growth of UCF Athletics

Hey junior, do you still think USF officials are concerned about the "rapid growth" of UCF since you and others claim USF is "scared" of UCF?

I think we are done with most of the UCF posters for a while with USF win over them today.

Nah, had it been a blow out again, that'd be the case.. but that game was a pillow fight right up until the very end.

as i stated earlier, this was your best chance to win, we played like crap but the talent difference was pretty obvious, had we either plancher or ponton for this game it would have been a route. our wr are still not very consistent catching the ball and several early long td's were dropped. i'm not sure what is up with the defense. that blocked punt for a td made it closer than it seemed. thanks for the congratulations but the back handed comments about us being equal need to stop. the next 2 years should be routes like last year. good luck to ucf.

USFMike Wrote:as i stated earlier, this was your best chance to win, we played like crap but the talent difference was pretty obvious, had we either plancher or ponton for this game it would have been a route. our wr are still not very consistent catching the ball and several early long td's were dropped. i'm not sure what is up with the defense. that blocked punt for a td made it closer than it seemed. thanks for the congratulations but the back handed comments about us being equal need to stop. the next 2 years should be routes like last year. good luck to ucf.

Theres nothing back handed about it. I tend to be as objectionable towards both programs as possible. I'm more of a college football fan than any particular team, I suppose.

USF looked downright awful (and UCF looked worse). I can't imagine any of your fans that consistently watch football feel otherwise. Grothe is going to be a star, but he's still an obvious freshman. Struggle to win against McNeese, FIU, and now UCF -- and you have Pitt, WVU, and UL playing varsity football still left on your schedule.

You'll get blown out by those guys, but will have competitive games against teams like Rutgers. In the battle of irrelevant programs, that might be something to be proud of.. but.... I don't think that's the type of thing that gets anyone from the state of florida all that fired up.

To keep it fair, I think USF goes bowling this year, UCF stays at home with 4, maybe 5, wins. Our highly paid coordinators are at risk, O'Leary's safe for quite some time. Next years worse, as UCF will be constantly demoralized with their ruthless OOC schedule (we should be scheduling McNeese, not Texas)

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USFMike Wrote:as i stated earlier, this was your best chance to win, we played like crap but the talent difference was pretty obvious, had we either plancher or ponton for this game it would have been a route. our wr are still not very consistent catching the ball and several early long td's were dropped. i'm not sure what is up with the defense. that blocked punt for a td made it closer than it seemed. thanks for the congratulations but the back handed comments about us being equal need to stop. the next 2 years should be routes like last year. good luck to ucf.

Theres nothing back handed about it. I tend to be as objectionable towards both programs as possible. I'm more of a college football fan than any particular team, I suppose.

USF looked downright awful (and UCF looked worse). I can't imagine any of your fans that consistently watch football feel otherwise. Grothe is going to be a star, but he's still an obvious freshman. Struggle to win against McNeese, FIU, and now UCF -- and you have Pitt, WVU, and UL playing varsity football still left on your schedule.

You'll get blown out by those guys, but will have competitive games against teams like Rutgers. In the battle of irrelevant programs, that might be something to be proud of.. but.... I don't think that's the type of thing that gets anyone from the state of florida all that fired up.

To keep it fair, I think USF goes bowling this year, UCF stays at home with 4, maybe 5, wins. Our highly paid coordinators are at risk, O'Leary's safe for quite some time. Next years worse, as UCF will be constantly demoralized with their ruthless OOC schedule (we should be scheduling McNeese, not Texas)

Rutgers and South Florida are 3-0 and Rutgers is going to be in the Top 30 this week, maybe the Top 25. I don't know if you can call them "irrelevant programs". I think USF made their statement against UCF.

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Maize Wrote:What UCF is trying to dictate is for USF to play them beyong 2008. USF is saying no and now it is being written about in the media. UCF should just accept it fate and move on. They can start Home and Home series with FAU or FIU if they want a instate rival.

And exactly how UCF is trying to dictate this???

There is nothing wrong with UCF wanting to play USF beyond 2008. If USF doesn't want to then fine. USF officials need to leave the excuses out of it. If the media wants to banter the subject around it is their right. If we CUSA/BE people want to banter the subject around fine as well.

But what we say doesn't represent what UCF or USF officials actually think about the series.

But I will say and continue to say that just because USF plays in a BCS conference doesn't mean they get to dictate anything because they haven't proven anything at all and don't have a tradition. Beating USF in football right means very little in the big picture of college football.

How little you understand the BCS and the Food Chain. With USF now in a BCS league they have every right to dictate what they want to do to schools in Non BCS Leagues.

This is not about the BCS and the "Food Chain." This is about Jim Leavitt wanting to have some opportunities to LEAVE the University of South Florida for a more "cushy" coaching job. He wants to coach at a "Big Time" BCS school that DOES NOT have probation problems. I am willing to bet at least $50 on this. (This is why Leavitt made a big stink about not going to Alabama, IMO. Coaching a team that is recovering from the effects of probation is a very hard and trying experience. You are forced to work with less talent and players who have little experience. Dennis Franchione had to do that at Alabama, and got out ASAP. He also made VERY SIMILAR comments about his job and WHO he wanted to play just like Leavitt is doing right now. Butch Davis did that at Miami, stayed the course, then once Miami was over probation, left for the NFL. He also made similar comments about how he liked his job and WHO he wanted to play.) Miami and Auburn fit the bill in that respect, but Auburn isn't looking to get rid of Tubberville.

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I get the point that USF is in a BSC conference and UCF is not, however, there are times when games need to be played for the fans and for the long term good of the program. The vast majority of UCF fans are not the punks that post crap on Internet chat rooms. We have a very similar fan base, we are young and energetic. Many of us grew up together and work together. Given a chance we will grow into big time college football programs together.

UF tried to duck FSU for the same reasons you guys are giving now. They were forced into those early games. How many UF fans would want out of the series now? They loved those games even when FSU was independent or when the ACC was a far inferior football conference (please don't start and ACC/SEC rant). If USF and UCF played each other year after year, the passion for the game would grow on both sides. As much as USF fans like to point out that non-BCS schools are not in their league, do you really think the national perception of Duke or Baylor is better then Boise State or TCU (or Louisville when they were in the CUSA)? UCF will be (or already is) a mid major power and USF will be (or already is)a middle to lower BCS school for near future (10 years). Don't you think the excitement of a true rivalry game will help both schools gain fans and recruits?

Like it or not, UM, FSU and UF will do nothing to help either school get into their league by scheduling an annual game with either one of us. We need to get there on our own. If the USF/UCF game becomes an annual event, the excitement of it will help both schools get to the big time quicker than if the game is not played.

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Miami is already slated to play USF.

As for the 'cowardly' statement its nothing more than feelings and certainly not a statement of substance. Emotions are no way to run a business.

And if Leavitt gets thumped by Miami a couple of times, he will state that "the schedule is too hard, and conference games are more of more importance than out of conference matchups." Leavitt wants out of USF. Print it!!!

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Post #46 Re: An honest question to USF fans on the intrest of UCF game. Reply

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I get the point that USF is in a BSC conference and UCF is not, however, there are times when games need to be played for the fans and for the long term good of the program. The vast majority of UCF fans are not the punks that post crap on Internet chat rooms. We have a very similar fan base, we are young and energetic. Many of us grew up together and work together. Given a chance we will grow into big time college football programs together.

UF tried to duck FSU for the same reasons you guys are giving now. They were forced into those early games. How many UF fans would want out of the series now? They loved those games even when FSU was independent or when the ACC was a far inferior football conference (please don't start and ACC/SEC rant). If USF and UCF played each other year after year, the passion for the game would grow on both sides. As much as USF fans like to point out that non-BCS schools are not in their league, do you really think the national perception of Duke or Baylor is better then Boise State or TCU (or Louisville when they were in the CUSA)? UCF will be (or already is) a mid major power and USF will be (or already is)a middle to lower BCS school for near future (10 years). Don't you think the excitement of a true rivalry game will help both schools gain fans and recruits?

Like it or not, UM, FSU and UF will do nothing to help either school get into their league by scheduling an annual game with either one of us. We need to get there on our own. If the USF/UCF game becomes an annual event, the excitement of it will help both schools get to the big time quicker than if the game is not played.

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Miami is already slated to play USF.

As for the 'cowardly' statement its nothing more than feelings and certainly not a statement of substance. Emotions are no way to run a business.

And if Leavitt gets thumped by Miami a couple of times, he will state that "the schedule is too hard, and conference games are more of more importance than out of conference matchups." Leavitt wants out of USF. Print it!!!