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Article: ACC finds trouble in paradise
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ACC finds trouble in paradise

BOB LIPPER
TIMES-DISPATCH COLUMNIST Sep 19, 2006

If misery loves company, Al Groh should be thrilled to have so many lodge brothers to dish with these days. It's ACC football's version of "The View" - with Chuck Amato in the Star Jones role, the Fridge as Rosie the replacement and Mike Tranghese giving John Swofford noogies in the gallery.

Point being: Duke QB Thaddeus Lewis took it on the chin over the weekend (good of Aaron Rouse to apologize, but it was still a nasty play), and so did ACC football.

Maryland? Crushed at West Virginia. Miami? Demolished at Louisville. N.C. State? Routed at, umm, Southern Mississippi. North Carolina? Lucky to beat Furman. Virginia? Dumped by (huh?) Western Michigan at home.

The scorecard for the ACC so far now reads 1-2 against the Mid-American Conference, 2-5 against teams from BCS leagues (if you count Notre Dame in that mix) and 2-4 against the Big East.

You remember the Big East? It's the collective left for dead when ingloriously plundered by the ACC three years ago. Big East boss Tranghese called ACC chief Swofford a ratfink and deleted him from his Rolodex and Christmas-card list. Then he found some replacement parts, asked for benefit-of-the-doubt dispensation from those who'd evict his league from the BCS benefits package - and hoped for better days.

Bingo. West Virginia whipped Georgia in last season's Sugar Bowl. The 'Eers and Louisville are top-eight in the latest AP poll. And beginning opening day (Pitt smacks U.Va., Rutgers zings UNC) and continuing over the weekend (WVU 45, Maryland 24; Louisville 37, Miami 7), the Big East has enjoyed payback at the ACC's expense.

Not that Tranghese (he swears) is counting.


"To me, it doesn't matter," he said yesterday. "Any time we can get a win against any of the teams in one of the BCS conferences, it's good for us. I wanted Louisville to beat Miami not because they were once in our league but because Miami is one of the top programs in the country, and a win over them would be good for us."

Miami. Miami was the supposed crown jewel of the ACC's heist (and Virginia Tech the grudgingly-accepted lump of coal - holy irony, eh?), but the 'Canes are a pale imitation of their former might. Some of them danced on Louisville's midfield logo before Saturday's kickoff. Oooh, that was intimidating. The Cardinals - even without their standout tailback and with their star quarterback injured mid-game - rolled.

The outcome was another blow for UM's Larry Coker, who looks more and more like a dead-duck coach walking. He's 54-11 and won a national championship in his debut. But the 'Canes have been in decline since then, the talent level is down, the boosters are howling, Coker's already churned the staff - and there's only one more head that's a candidate to roll.

Same could be said at State, where Amato was reduced to whining about Akron's unsubstantiated academic leeway after a home loss to the Zips - this from the guy who presides over the lone ACC program not to be recognized by the coaches association for superior graduation rates at least once during his six seasons in Raleigh.

Meanwhile, Groh is one missed extra point by Wyoming from maybe being 0-3, UNC's John Bunting hasn't posted a winner since his 2001 break-in, Maryland's Ralph Friedgen keeps wobbling two-plus seasons after a splashy three-year run with another guy's material and Bobby Bowden and offensive coordinator/son Jeff still can't get Florida State's attack out of second gear (204 yards against Clemson - sheesh).

Their only salvation is they mostly play each other from here on out. It might not be pretty.


Contact staff writer Bob Lipper at blipper@timesdispatch.com or (804) 649-6555
09-19-2006 08:33 AM
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Very nice find Jackson. Thanks for sharing.
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Great read! Makes me proud of the BE.
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lmfao lmfao lmfao lmfao lmfao lmfao

The ACC is really feeling it this year. How does it feel guys? lmfao
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cuseroc Wrote:lmfao lmfao lmfao lmfao lmfao lmfao

The ACC is really feeling it this year. How does it feel guys? lmfao

What else is funny is we have a ACC apologist as our local Sports Talk guy here in Louisville on WHAS which is a 50,000 watt station. He tried to downplay the Big East success this year but will NEVER mention the fact that the ACC OOC is 9-8 and if not for Wake Forest would have been swept by the Big East this year.
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Maize Wrote:
cuseroc Wrote:lmfao lmfao lmfao lmfao lmfao lmfao

The ACC is really feeling it this year. How does it feel guys? lmfao

What else is funny is we have a ACC apologist as our local Sports Talk guy here in Louisville on WHAS which is a 50,000 watt station. He tried to downplay the Big East success this year but will NEVER mention the fact that the ACC OOC is 9-8 and if not for Wake Forest would have been swept by the Big East this year.

SO WHY DID YOU POST THIS ON THE CUSA BOARD?

lmfao
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See reply on C-USA Board. 05-stirthepot ;-)

It wasn't the same reason why you POSTED EVERY FREAKING ARTICLE on the Louisville Rival Board 3 years ago talking about why the Big East will lose it BCS Bid.
09-19-2006 09:16 AM
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Poor ACC see how the shoe fits now? Anyone else doubt we deserve our spot at the table? WVU and UL have really impressed so far. Maybe Rutgers isn't that impressive given who we've beat, but we did do our part thus far.
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Yes, Rutgers has done their part by beating who they're supposed to beat. Actually, I feel good about all the teams this year. I wish Pitt had beaten Mich St but otherwise they've represented well. South Florida is undefeated and beat Central Florida which was a must (could you imagine the clamor we would have gotten from C-USA if they had lost). Cincy beat the team it was supposed to beat. No one expected them to compete with Ohio St but they held their own for more than a half. Syracuse is making me very proud with their close call with Iowa and their win over Illinois. They're 1-1 in the big ten...better than they will do in the Big East. UConn....I hope better days are coming this year.
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What does the average ACC player get on the SAT?

Drool

lmfao
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cuseroc Wrote:lmfao lmfao lmfao lmfao lmfao lmfao

The ACC is really feeling it this year. How does it feel guys? lmfao

It's karma. It'll bite you in the ass EACH AND EVERYTIME. Now they're experiencing what we had to experience the last few years.
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HiddenDragon Wrote:
Maize Wrote:
cuseroc Wrote:lmfao lmfao lmfao lmfao lmfao lmfao

The ACC is really feeling it this year. How does it feel guys? lmfao

What else is funny is we have a ACC apologist as our local Sports Talk guy here in Louisville on WHAS which is a 50,000 watt station. He tried to downplay the Big East success this year but will NEVER mention the fact that the ACC OOC is 9-8 and if not for Wake Forest would have been swept by the Big East this year.

SO WHY DID YOU POST THIS ON THE CUSA BOARD?

lmfao

Probably because you and others were ripping the Big East for the EXACT SAME REASON. Now that you don't have a reason to rip the Big East, but a reason to rip another conference, you either defend the ACC or turn the other cheek. Maybe that's it?
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